Curse

credit · Jan 28, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Stopped reading here, when it became clear the OP was a bad monk and therefore clueless.

Have to agree here.

NamelessBeauty · Jan 28, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

QFT. "pryo monks" (a term I've never heard used to describe heal/prot hybrids) are generally superior.

One of the reasons I don't see Patient Spirit is because it is a GW:EN skill. I've seen Dwayna's Kiss be used... thousands of times since the release of Phrophecies, back when it was just Guild Wars.

People use what they are used to and are familar with. The real problem with patient is the way it behaves as a delayed heal (which is... the point of the skill). Somebody who is used to Dwayna's Kiss or Infusing, etc and have been playing it for 2 years have a very hard time adjusting to the behavior of patient. It just throws off the timing of most experienced monks. So it hardly ever sees any play.

Hahahha w/e I'm tired. yes, I mean Hybrid ahahhaha!!! W/e wow I'm bad!

Yes, that's why I want a buff. It's good but too unrealistic. People read my post and only look at the dam comparation and say oh "2 non-elite" vs "1 non-elite and 1 Elite skill." Just like my dam friend "Divine" hahaha. Can't believe he still think like that. My compartion is just an example of the closest combo that can be used to compare.

Div · Jan 28, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

LMAO at Divine.

You don't get my point, it's not the comparation lol. Think it as a whole. How many times you have seen or use Patient Spirit. Though I know u would agree that Patient Spirit is good. A bit of a buff would have make it be in use more offen.

Btw this is Roast Bunny, wow!

STOP THROWING HISSY FITS THEN

And you didn't beat the game, so I WIN

<3

NamelessBeauty · Jan 28, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

STOP THROWING HISSY FITS THEN

And you didn't beat the game, so I WIN

<3

Uhmm, your term. It's undefine in the dictionary. WTF is that? Uhmm yeh I did not beat the game. LMAO. Where did you get that idea from Divine? -,-". You smoke too much crack lmao! Go play PvE, go go go go go.!

Btw how did your GvG from [dR] go? I still wonder why the hell [DF] have so high in rating lol. Their win-lose is kinda worse than [dR] lol.

[DF] 278 - 39
[dR] 273 - 34

Trylo · Jan 28, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

im confused about this whole thread. all i see is superior players getting beat up by a total nub at monking.

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Originally Posted by NamlessBeauty

stuffstuffstuff

Talk about HA.
1. Channeling (a must unless running some smite ball)
2. Veil/Spotless (also a must unless running some weird crap)
3. Draw condition
4. Orison (out of question)
5. Infuse (also out of question)
6. Heal Party / Healing Seed (No need to explain) Pyro gonna run Prot spirit on this of course.

more useless stuff

WHO RUNS 12 DIVINE FAVOR? most useless idea ever. really, it is.

im kinda lost at that whole HA bar too... you mean you dont always run DK? you would rather use HBoon + heal other? personally when im HAing dwayna's almost always outheals heal other in the first place.

and hybrids dont run that bar...? i dont really like having prot spirit and an infuse on the same bar, because then, sometimes, i wont know if i should be using PS or Infuse until after the first spike, which might have been to late.

i pick on this part because its the most likely part for a nub to come into the forum, look at, copy down, and go suck at HA.

and i have seen good guilds (since that seems to be your reference for good or bad skills) using patient spirit.

GoLE is annoying and i hate it for anything other than pve. lets stop for 1.5 sec before casting anything else, especially those nice 10e prots that should have been on that target more than a second ago!

who feels like closing this thread for the sheer laugh of it? eh?

Mangione · Jan 28, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Buff not needed.

Reasons:
Pretty much the same already stated by
Xiao The Blade, The Meth, blakecrow, MagmaRed and Stormlord Alex

bhavv · Jan 29, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Wow, namelessbeauty you are stupid RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupidly retarded.

You never go healer without dismiss condition and either PS or Spirit bond for PVP... In fact, you fail even more for comparing a combo with an elite to one without one...

Gtfo of the game.

Ok, searing flames costs 15e and is more DPS then flare + fireball for 15e.

So omfg buff flare and fireball to do the same DPS as searing flames plox.

Biostem · Jan 29, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

I'm a little confused; isn't the whole point of patient spirit to be a delayed-action heal? You plop it on a person just before they attack an enemy, and it'll trigger at the same time or just after the retaliatory strike.

Anyway, don't we have enough straight-on healing skills? I think diversity is good at this point...

Grand Theft Ecto · Jan 29, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Patient spirit is fine as it is. We don't need a 1/4s cast 5e heal other. If you feel the need to buff something, take your pick out of the rest of the healing line.
(or the divine favor line for that matter, ArenaNet knows how to provide for the sealed deck audience.)

O and: infuse - patient spirit - word of healing - draw - prot sprit - heal party - veil - channeling equals win.

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 29, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

/agree with above
that build rocks in the halls

cept i don't use hp but thats kinda a preference

this thread has become a flame fest *grabs marshmallow and a stick*

JASON626 · Jan 29, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I use pateint spirit, WoH, RoF and others in AB and RA thats it. Its good if your dazed or have migraine so the 1/4 second cast still lets u use skills without being shut down totally.

NamelessBeauty · Jan 29, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Wow, namelessbeauty you are stupid RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupidly retarded.

You never go healer without dismiss condition and either PS or Spirit bond for PVP... In fact, you fail even more for comparing a combo with an elite to one without one...

Gtfo of the game.

Ok, searing flames costs 15e and is more DPS then flare + fireball for 15e.

So omfg buff flare and fireball to do the same DPS as searing flames plox.

Thanks for banning this!

Again, my point is that Patient Spirit is a good skill, there are people who use it and think it's good right now, I know that. But it's really not that effective. But it's fine.

Mod: Please close! Too many flamers!

Skyy High · Jan 29, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Ok, searing flames costs 15e and is more DPS then flare + fireball for 15e.

So omfg buff flare and fireball to do the same DPS as searing flames plox.

Gotta agree with this comparison; this thread is just based on a stupid premise.

Seriously, Patient's competition is Dwayna's kiss. That's it. Compare the two skill, don't drag in this other ridiculous crap about comparing the use of them combined with some other 2 skill combo (one of which is elite...), because no one uses patient + dwayna's that I know of.

Kanyatta · Jan 30, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Patient Spirit has its place in the game, I see it used periodically, it's not an unused skill. Dwayna's Kiss has its place in the game, although it is used a lot more.

Can't it just be left at that?

Arkantos · Jan 30, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

So since this is turning into a flamefest and the OP wants the thread closed, I'm going to close it.